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Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#1 Post by Swagman » Mon May 17, 2010 2:38 pm

Is there any interest of having a electric element that would be easy to remove from the keggle. Been working on a element, tri clover, and cover box. I know pictures and as they say film at a eleven. The base ideal is to remove a clamp and the element and cover box could be removed.


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Re: Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#2 Post by cyburai » Mon May 17, 2010 3:31 pm

This sounds really interesting.

Any concerns about heat? I doubt it, since they are used in boil kettles now. But will the element cause a more direct heat to the gasket?

Too bad you already welded up my kettles.
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Re: Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#3 Post by Swagman » Wed May 19, 2010 7:25 am

Gasket used is EPDM good to 350 degree's steam. I don't think there is going to be a problem with it.


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Re: Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#4 Post by meisel » Wed May 19, 2010 7:28 am

DO WANT :bounce:
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Re: Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#5 Post by Matt » Wed May 19, 2010 1:40 pm

I've been wanting to go electric on my HLT for some time now. That looks like a beautiful way to go.

What might such an addition cost?

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Re: Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#6 Post by Jdl973 » Wed May 19, 2010 11:15 pm

I was at Swagman's shop the other day...and held the "device" in my hand. Very cool and I wish he would of thought of this when he was building my rig... :cry:

Looks like a very cool way to be able to disconnect your HLT without a huge pain in the !@#.

Way to go Swag...

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Re: Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#7 Post by Blktre » Thu May 20, 2010 10:59 am

Matt wrote:I've been wanting to go electric on my HLT for some time now. That looks like a beautiful way to go.

What might such an addition cost?

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You want to go electric? Stangbat has the sweetest electric rig Ive ever seen. Actually one of the sweetest rigs Ive ever seen. Its actually built for electric or propane.
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Re: Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#8 Post by cyburai » Thu May 20, 2010 1:18 pm

Blktre wrote:
Matt wrote:I've been wanting to go electric on my HLT for some time now. That looks like a beautiful way to go.

What might such an addition cost?

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You want to go electric? Stangbat has the sweetest electric rig Ive ever seen. Actually one of the sweetest rigs Ive ever seen. Its actually built for electric or propane.
I think he's pretty much given up on the natural gas side of it. It works great, but Eric said its just a ton easier with electric. Suppose it would work on when the power is out though.
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Re: Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#9 Post by Matt » Thu May 20, 2010 3:12 pm

Of course the downside for me is that I'd need 240 to power such a heating element, no? And 240 is kind of hard to come by in apartments -- there's usually just one 240 outlet for the washer & dryer and that's it.
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Re: Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#10 Post by Steve Brown » Thu May 20, 2010 3:16 pm

So buy a 220-240 extension cord and don't run the clothes dryer when brewing; seems pretty straightforward.

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Re: Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#11 Post by Blktre » Thu May 20, 2010 5:55 pm

Steve Brown wrote:So buy a 220-240 extension cord and don't run the clothes dryer when brewing; seems pretty straightforward.
Nope. You need a safety factor built into that. A 220 GFI is big money. And another ER shutdown switch at the rig for double security. Among other things.
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Re: Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#12 Post by DJ in KC » Thu May 20, 2010 7:07 pm

Blktre wrote:
Steve Brown wrote:So buy a 220-240 extension cord and don't run the clothes dryer when brewing; seems pretty straightforward.
Nope. You need a safety factor built into that. A 220 GFI is big money. And another ER shutdown switch at the rig for double security. Among other things.
That. All electric at my place.

Martin it looks nice.

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Re: Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#13 Post by Jdl973 » Thu May 20, 2010 7:38 pm

Andy, I just picked up a 50 Amp GFI 240V hot tub breaker for $68 at Home Depot (water proof box and breaker).

Matt, you could go with a 120V element, but usually they do not have the "umph" to keep up with the heat loss.

My rig can do 220V on HLT with a propane backup. When you go to 220V you will need a thermocoupler, an RSS and a PID to control the hole thing. Also it is a good thing to chassy ground your rig (as Andy said...safety first when playing with 220) and have it on a GFI, just in case you get one leg wet and it tries to go to ground...you do not what to be any part of that circuit :shaking2: .


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Re: Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#14 Post by Blktre » Thu May 20, 2010 9:32 pm

Btw, this is a cool product. Especially for those dual fuel brewers.
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2. The phenomenon a person has when craving more bitterness in beer.
3. The long-term exposure to extremely hoppy beers; if excessive or prolonged, a habitual dependence on hops will occur.
4. When a "Double IPA" just is not enough

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Re: Tri Clover removable Electric Element

#15 Post by Bierdog » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:27 pm

Are you thinking 110kV or 220kV?

Not that the voltage would make difference in the decision to go electric, just curious.

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