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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:23 pm
by Matt
Jeff -- I'd be willing to split part of my batch with you. I'm mainly doing this for the experience of it all, though I did find the bottle we had at the meeting quite enjoyable (thanks again, Chuck).
How much will each person be getting from 2 10 gallon batches? has anyone done the math?
Matt
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:35 am
by Blktre
Matt wrote:Jeff -- I'd be willing to split part of my batch with you. I'm mainly doing this for the experience of it all, though I did find the bottle we had at the meeting quite enjoyable (thanks again, Chuck).
How much will each person be getting from 2 10 gallon batches? has anyone done the math?
Matt
Well, lets get it figured out......
Lets say we are using 750ml bottles....
There are 3785 ml per gallon. How many 750 ml bottles in 1 gallon?
I get around 5 750 ml bottles in 1 gallon, therfore in a 10g batch there are 50 750 ml bottles..........
We are doing 20g (2 different recipes) So we need 100 750 ml bottles.........
Is this right?
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:46 am
by Snowman
Jensen wrote:If there is any room I'd love in.... If not, I'd still like to watch.... I can squeeze myself in a closet real well...
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OK...Jeff this leaves me wondering, are you in the closet or out

Sorry but ya gotta admit there was plenty of material to work with...Sorry.
Now back to the quantity of bottles. lets see... Ya Andy those numbers run about right by me.
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:54 am
by Blktre
Good.......everyone is responsible for their own bottles. But, heres the tricky part when dealing with bottles. 2 things: 1) The bottles need to be able to accept a crown cap, some dont i was told from Drew. 2) The bottle neck needs to be the same for all the bottles so they accept the same size cork. We cannot afford on disengorgment day to find out different bottles use different sized corks. So, what to do about this......thoughts anyone?
Jarrell,
You still interested in building a riddling rack? We will need mutliples so we get the proper amount of holes for the bottles. Or would it be better to use boxes that have seperations and just tilt the bottles during riddling? I must add, the riddling rack would look way cool vs boxes......
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:08 am
by Snowman
Yes I'll still make the rack(s) my thought is that I'll make a rack that each row has the ability to tilt. It would take to much to discribe here so I'll talk to you in person.
On the topic of bottles I say that a dead line for all bottles available needs to be made so that an inspection of uniformity can be made. If some want to order this would give opportunity to organize too.
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:12 am
by Blktre
I agree.......i think i will order my bottles..i hate champagne and buying champagne to get the bottles doesnt settle with me too good.....
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:19 am
by Blktre
NB has bottles but they are green, anybody know of any place that sells amber champagne bottles?
From NB:
750 ml Green Champagne Bottles
These Champagne bottles can be sealed with a #8 cork, a champagne stopper or a normal crown bottle cap. 12 per case.
#6513 750 Green Champagne $18.55
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:43 am
by Greenblood
Those are not champagne bottles. They are thin glass, and they are not made to withstand the pressure of anything produced in the traditional methode. Champagne bottles must have a punt in the bottom of the bottle. This is a common mistake, that could lead to a lot of dissapointment when bottles start exploding. For the sake of safety, and satisfaction, I strongly suggest we all pitch in and order the same bottles.
John
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:52 am
by Greenblood
I am actually beginning to question myself here. I am almost positive that we will need "real" champagne bottles for this project, but I may be wrong. Andy, any chance you can check with the Falcon boys?
John
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:21 am
by Blktre
John,
Yessss, we need champagne bottles with the punt and heavier glass neck for the wire cage. Why is NB saying these are champagne bottles and they arent?? The pic actually shows no punt, if thats true, they wont work..
Yea, im leaning towards buying all the same bottles. After talking w/ Jarrell the rack hes gonna build requires the same bottle. So, if somebody cant afford their take of bottles on the bulk buy, then theres enuff interest for that person to be replaced. I hate to sound like a jerk, but consisntency is the name of the game here....But, im confident that wont be the case.....
More thoughts and places to buy bottles........anyone?
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:26 am
by Blktre
John.........heres a different bottle that got a punt......your thoughts on these.....
http://www.midwestsupplies.com/products ... rodID=5364
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:34 am
by Greenblood
Has a punt, but is a burgandy wine bottle. Will not withstand the pressure, nor will it accept a stopper and cage.
John
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:49 pm
by Blktre
Just got off the horn with Drew.........hes gonna do some poking around for us...
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:49 pm
by Matt
Yeah, we definitely need to do a bulk order for these bottles -- solves all our problems (consistancy, functionality, rackability, etc) and that way nobody gets dissappointed. Probably save us all a lot of money in the long run on the bottles too (volume discount).
Cuz Andy, 18 dollars? Is that per case or what?!? Regardless, that's just freakin' crazy talk. Surely there's a better solution.
Matt
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:51 pm
by Blktre
Wait till you see the riddling rack Jarrell is designing.......projob all the way around and easy and free to build for the most part.......
Matt, that price is for a case of 12........pretty cheap in my mind.