Sour in an Hour? Brewers are experimenting with white koji to speed up the time to acidify their kettle sours.

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Sour in an Hour? Brewers are experimenting with white koji to speed up the time to acidify their kettle sours.

#1 Post by ryanmetcalf » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:54 pm

Has anyone tried using Koji to do a super fast sour? Didn't see any matches here on the forum when I did a search
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspergillus_oryzae
Aspergillus oryzae, known in English as koji (Japanese: ニホンコウジカビ Hepburn: nihon koji kabi), is a filamentous fungus (a mold) used in Japan to ferment soybeans for making soy sauce and fermented bean paste (including miso), and also to saccharify rice, other grains, and potatoes in the making of alcoholic beverages such as sake and shōchū.
Came across this Beer and Brewing article that came out this week
https://beerandbrewing.com/sour-in-an-hour/
However, when you add koji into the mash of, say, a Berliner weisse, it will dramatically cut the time needed to properly kettle sour a beer.

“You talk to so many brewers who pitch lactobacillus (sometimes yogurt) on Friday, let it grow all weekend, producing lactic acid, and then come back on Monday to boil the wort,” says Bellomy. “With test brews that we’ve done with white koji, if you make it 20 to 25 percent of your grain bill, you could make a sour beer in a standard 1-hour mash time.”

It’s like the Fotomats of old: Sour in an Hour.

“White koji already contains the citric, lactic, and succinic acids, which impart a beautifully clean acidity to the beer,” Bellomy says.
Might be giving this a try here in early July

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Re: Sour in an Hour? Brewers are experimenting with white koji to speed up the time to acidify their kettle sours.

#2 Post by LeighK » Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:30 am

Never heard of this method but please report back!
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#3 Post by johnpepin » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:24 pm

I'm very curious and might consider trying this method to sour a Berliner Weiss. Has anyone tried it? I'd appreciate your feedback?
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Re: Sour in an Hour? Brewers are experimenting with white koji to speed up the time to acidify their kettle sours.

#4 Post by ryanmetcalf » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:45 am

John, still haven't gotten to this, but sounds like I may end up being the first. Going to give it a try after the new year and holiday travels are in the rear view mirror.
I'll keep you posted! I've got a pH meter, so I can check it in intervals as it progresses, we could make charts!

Going to check and see if the Pan-Asia (Overland Park) stocks Koji, I can't imagine they wouldn't, the place is huge! Else I'll go Amazon if I can't procure locally, could test which brands are more effective than others

Pan-Asia Market
11940 Metcalf Ave
Overland Park, KS 66213
https://goo.gl/maps/D4b8VjUJVY4YMumT9

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