I finally dropped a HERMS into the loop

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I finally dropped a HERMS into the loop

#1 Post by Bill » Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:40 pm

Sunday I finally got a HERMS moved into the loop. It only cost me about $6 to get it done. I just used my existing IC and my HLT. I just needed to convert one of the outputs on the IC to a male QD to be able to add it to the loop.

It was a good brew day, I haven?t brewed in a few months and it was a perfect day. I heated up the HLT for my dough in, filled it back up and heated it back up to around 150?. I let the mash sit for 30 minutes and then started fire up and started the re-circulation through the HERMS. The pump was on pretty low and the heat transfer was perfect. I monitored the temp of the wort coming out of the sparge arm and kept it 153? and did my re-circulation for 15 minutes.

I then raised the temp to 165? for the mash out and let that run for about 10 minutes, monitoring the wort at the sparge arm.

Once I was done I started my normal fly sparge by simply moving the QD from the IC to the HLT. Since I always re-circulate before I sparge my wort is always nice and clear when it is going into the kettle so no difference for me there.

I guess I?ll have to brew one of my familiar brews to see if I can tell a difference in the brews. I?ll probably keep it in the loop as it took me no extra time or effort, the only thing it is costing me is fuel, which I guess would be the only reason I would pull it out. Well, that and the fact that I wasn't willing to let all that sweet wort go to waste that was in the HERMS so I held it upside down and blew it out the other end straight into the boil. So, I guess if I keep the HERMS there will be a little bit of me in every batch :)

Anyway, glad I did it. I may look into those small exchangers that are being thrown around in the GreenBoard threads. Hell, I may even look into having it be electric!
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#2 Post by Blktre » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:47 pm

once you go HERMS you'll never go back! 8)
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3. The long-term exposure to extremely hoppy beers; if excessive or prolonged, a habitual dependence on hops will occur.
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#3 Post by tjthresh » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:45 pm

This thread is useless with out pics!


:D

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#4 Post by Bill » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:08 pm

Fine Tom, Fine. Pictures, here they are.

Here is the recirculation running about 1/2 throttle. Tun is in the foreground, pump-in-a-box is on the bottom-left and the hot liquor/HERMS sitting on a chair. Safety first :?
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Tun to pump-in-a-box. Too much time on my hands one day, so I mounted the pump to a box I had. I need to mount it higher up.
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Pump to HERMS with the return back to the sparge arm (which just made me realize that I forgot to do a mash-out for this brew :| )
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QD on the sparge arm. Everything gets a QD. Nothing is hard-piped.
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Yummm, Porter. Sparge arm in action. This is also where I take my temp. I figure if the mash is 152? and the return from the HERMS is 152?, I just need to monitor the return temp. I will replace this ghetto-fab piece and make a copper manifold that goes through the lid.
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My giant Pepsi can filled with water and jugs of ice with my pre-chiller. With the blanket on there it stays around 38?
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Recirculating the wort during the chill. Not sure if this is doing much for me , I need to do some time/temp tests. I wrapped the kettle with some self-adhesive foil insulation. I've had it on there for about 2 years and its basically held on with clear packing tape. Good tape. I wrapped it because I was brewing outside with no wind-break, so during the winter a good gust would stop the boil (remember that brew session Sean?). Maybe it's hurting my chill-down times?
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The wort going back into the kettle. I'm going to cut another hole in the keg and mount a copper return about the middle of the keg. I'll have the copper run along the curve of the keg. Hopefully that will stop the foaming action I'm getting.
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That's my brew rig pretty much. The orientation changes a bit each time, depending on what crap is in my way that weekend. I've got some bed frame ready to go to make a sturdy rig on wheels, I just need some assistance with the welding.
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#5 Post by Blktre » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:56 am

Whats that tire belong too? Oh, your HERMS is ghetto cool!

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2. The phenomenon a person has when craving more bitterness in beer.
3. The long-term exposure to extremely hoppy beers; if excessive or prolonged, a habitual dependence on hops will occur.
4. When a "Double IPA" just is not enough

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#6 Post by Bill » Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:13 pm

Blktre wrote:Whats that tire belong too? Oh, your HERMS is ghetto cool!

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Good eye for Rally Sport rims Andy :) `72 Vette

The car is as ghetto as my rig though.
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#7 Post by Jensen » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:16 am

Are you sure you don't realize a quicker cooling time by recirculating the wort? I'd be interested in what your brewing note say.

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Vorlauf

#8 Post by fergmeister » Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:18 am

Hey Bill,
Are you using your sparge loop to return your wort (at distance) to the mash bed??? You may want to rethink that one and get the fall/splashing distance closer to just flowing it onto the grain. Hot wort no liky splash bra. BTW how do you insert the pics into the forum message. Brew like Tarzan / I-M like Jane :geek:
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Re: Vorlauf

#9 Post by Bill » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:48 pm

fergmeister wrote:Hey Bill,
Are you using your sparge loop to return your wort (at distance) to the mash bed??? You may want to rethink that one and get the fall/splashing distance closer to just flowing it onto the grain. Hot wort no liky splash bra. BTW how do you insert the pics into the forum message. Brew like Tarzan / I-M like Jane :geek:
It's my plan to make a copper manifold that I can adjust the height and bring the distance down.

as far as posting a pic, there is a link above the chat box labeled Img or you can manually type it out like this: this

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[img]http://lawrencebrewers.org/bill/Recirc1.jpg[/img]
You just need a place to upload the picture to. There are sites like www.photobucket.com and www.flickr.com that you can upload files to for free.
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Hep me

#10 Post by fergmeister » Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:39 am

Pardon my ignorance. Thanks :oops: Well that didn't work. Do you cut and paste from another file?? :scratch: [/img]
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